July 22, 2009
Chris Matthews with Rudy Giuliani chatting on Hardball. Out comes the “issue d’jour” which has been going on for a year. Right away barama shows he has no grasp on the legal – Constitutional – aspect of the issue – which has no emotional or fringian aspect to it. He says “native born” not natural born. It would be one thing if they had control of the facts but they aren’t even close. They don’t even know what the “birthers” want. And wanting the man who claims transparency to be transparent–to just keep his word is not a conspiracy, or racist, or hate-based or anything else.
No one can say” “it will never be enough” until he actually produces it and the mere fact that he hasn’t gives legitimacy to questioners.
Say what you want, rant how often and how furiously you like – not a single person can justify or even explain why he has not just produced the real thing. Something that he admitted was in his possession at one point. So, it’s not like he doesn’t know what’s on it.
Until he presents his long form birth certificate – it will remain a legitimate issue based on barry’s own claims of transparency. Period.
Video MSNBC – hand-transcribed
MATTHEWS: Let me ask you about this native born thing.
GIULIANI: Yeah, we should get off that.
MATTHEWS: What do you make of people like Shelby — a ranking top Republican saying things like he’s saying?
Sen Shelby made his remark FIVE MONTHS AGO. His full sentence: “Well his father was Kenyan and they said he was born in Hawaii, but I haven’t seen any birth certificate.”
GIULIANI: We all make mistakes – we all say things that are wrong.
MATTHEWS: This is what Shelby says – these are not mistakes – these are deliberate statements. “I haven’t seen any birth certificate.” That’s the Senator from Alabama. “I haven’t seen any birth certificate.”
True. No one has except two Hawaii officials. Even GIBBS admitted it’s not a birth certificate. barama gets Rep Posey’s name wrong and later calls barry a “she”.
MATTHEWS: Spokesman for Congresswoman Blackburn says, “People are losing faith in the system because he won’t show his birth certificate.” I mean these comments–Poser–this guy. Look at these! I’ve got the birth certificate right there!
GIULIANI: Show it to them!
Matthews holds up what I believe is the COLB with blacked out numbers. The camera does not get a good look at it.
MATTHEWS: There it is again — I keep showing it!
GIULIANI: Show it to them – they’ll keep quiet.
MATTHEWS: Posey says he can’t swear on a stack of Bibles she’s a citizen or not. You’ve got Rush Limbaugh out there saying Jesus – oh, he says God and Barack Obama neither one has a birth certificate.
MATTHEWS: What is this about in your party?
GIULIANI: I don’t know.
MATTHEWS: What is it?
GIULIANI: I think it’s maybe something we should get off but –
MATTHEWS: But why, why does your Party–
GIULIANI: they all have a right to their own–
MATTHEWS: It’s the unAmericanization of presidential candidates. Why does your party do this? To Dukakis – every time–
GIULIANI: Oh, come on.
MATTHEWS: They do it over and over again.
GIULIANI: Look at what the Democrats did to George Bush. He a criminal, he should be investigated, he should be prosecuted.
MATTHEWS: No, no, no.
GIULIANI: …he should be impeached.
MATTHEWS: This undocumented alien crap that Rush Limbaugh’s pushing.
MATTHEWS: That he’s somehow undocumented. Lou Dobbs does it. Everybody’s doing it on the Right now. He’s not documented. Why do you keep pushing it?
GIULIANI: I’m not pushing it! You mean why do some people in my party push it? I don’t push it.
MATTHEWS: They’re big shots!
GIULIANI: My Party-
MATTHEWS: Rush Limbaugh — you guys all think he’s great, Rush Limbaugh. He’s doing it.
GIULIANI: I think he’s great on a number of things, but I–
MATTHEWS: They’ve got nine house members pushing the story.
Rep Posey introduced the bill on MARCH 12, 2009. And it has to do with FUTURE presidential and vice presidential candidates – not barry. It is not in any way retrospective and yet who is linking it to barry?
GIULIANI: Every, every Party has disagreements–
MATTHEWS: Does it have wacky?
GIULIANI: Every Party has people who have–
MATTHEWS: Does it have whack jobs?
GIULIANI:–take up issues that aren’t the best issues and we can’t be responsible for all of it. The Democrats have plenty of that. Laughs.
MATTHEWS: But they’re in your playpen and you’re responsible for them.
GIULIANI keeps laughing.
MATTHEWS: So, let me just put this to rest.
GIULIANI: Nobody put them in charge of them.
What Matthews says next is just wrong and I take extreme offense to it. I am not a birther, a Right winger (not even sure what this entails outside hockey), a nutjob, a wacko, a conspiracist racist and I don’t wear tinfoil. I am an America citizen who is appalled at the media’s corruption and lack of vetting of barry, which has been made clear by the birth certificate issue. My questioning of why barry hasn’t just released his birth certificate – when he proclaims transparency – and when it is the media’s job to hold him to it – had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT THAT EVIL MURDERER PERPETRATED AT THE HOLOCAUST MUSEUM. And it is beyond irresponsible for Matthews (and Rachel Maddow and many others) to continue to say such things. That man had been spewing his hate to any and everyone who would listen since before barry’s mother was even born. He spent hours and hours day after day after day on the internet on his own site, which had nothing to do with barry’s birth certificate. He was not set off by birthers and to say so is criminal and whoever continues to flat out say that should be sanctioned.
MATTHEWS: The reason I brought this up is the guy who shot at the Holocaust Museum – this isn’t a joke.
MATTHEWS: These full mooners are spreading this kind of talk and people who are lunatic pick up on it and they think God’s on their side in doing something about it. The guy shows up and blows away that African-American guy who is to protects the museum.
And 27 years ago the guy showed up in Washington DC at the Federal Reserve Building armed with a .38, a knife and sawed-off machine gun and threatened a security guard in an attempt to kidnap the Federal Reserve Board. He didn’t need anything more than had been festering inside his derganged mind for 88 years to do what he did. One could just as easily and irresponsibly say he was set off by Matthews’ professed love for barry or by Rachel Maddow’s professed love for women.
GIULIANI: I think the Republican Party would be much better off if we stuck to the issues.
GIULIANI: I think there’s nothing wrong with Barack Obama. I think he’s a fine person. He’s got a wonderful family. I think he’s doing a — in certain respects I admire the things he’s been able to accomplish and do – I think he has the wrong ideas! This is a fight about principle – not about whether he’s a cit–I mean that’s over with – that’s already been–
MATTHEWS: Do you have more of an electoral future than Hillary Clinton?
GIULIANI: I have no idea.