CAIR’s Nihad Awad: “I will never come to the conclusion that religion is the motive”

By mattie14

It’s curious which of the posts go missing.

November 6, 2009

Updated list of Fort Hood posts

Chris Matthews pretends he doesn’t know the motivation of the muslim murderer. And his guest was Nihad Awad is the executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations. He is a wad of lying crap. Watch closely what a very good liar he is. Only a few blinks, a turn of the head, and a single stutter give him away. His face was too evil to watch talk more than once and his words so clearly false I included the entire transcript.

barama does mention that his producers invited CAIR there for PC reasons. Watch and listen how barama just sits there and doesn’t go after him. This proves once and for all how in the bag barama is – and for all his claims of loving America – he is a coward. A coward who will sell out the injured and murdered at the hand of the terrorist just to save barry.

Chris Matthews, you disgust me.

I pray that none of the families or the injured saw this segment.

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MATTHEWS: Welcome back to HARDBALL. The investigation into that massacre at Ft. Hood yesterday is still ongoing, and it’s unclear if religion was a factor in this shooting. But we do know that the shooting suspect, Nidal Malik Hasan, is a Muslim who was reportedly very upset about his pending deployment to Afghanistan. He did not want to go, never did want to go to that Middle East war front.

Do American Muslims have reason to fear a wave of hostility as a result of his shooting?

[Did American soldiers have reason to fear a muslim murderer in their midst. Stop with this muslim crap. Where are those American Muslims speaking up before things like this happen?]

NIHAD AWAD is the executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, which was quick to condemn the massacre.

Sir, it’s a difficult time and-it’s a difficult time. Yet this fellow, who’s the suspect in this case-he’s alive, by the way. Last night at this time, we thought he was dead because of the way the army was keeping the information. We’re trying to get information, and what we’re getting, piecemeal information of people saying he had said things-a fellow medical student in Bethesda out here nearby here said when he was training in 2007 and 2008, he made himself out to be a vociferous opponent of the war over there, our war over there.

He described-well, here he is. Here’s an audio interview, NBC interview which we did with the former classmate of Hasan’s at the Uniformed Services University, that’s a medical university, with Dr. Val Finnell. Let’s listen.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

DR. VAL FINNELL, UNIFORMED SERVICES UNIVERSITY CLASSMATE: He was very against the global war on terror and he equated with it a global war on Islam and was very vocal about that in the classroom environment and made it very well known, got into contentious arguments with people about it and became visibly upset when he was challenged on those very radical and controversial views, declaring (ph) himself to be a Muslim first and an American second.

[How in the hell was he allowed to stay in the Army? Think of the horror of the soldiers who had to sit across from him and the guilt they are feeling now for not being able to save their buddies from the muslim murderers' cowardly evil and blind hate.]

MATTHEWS: A Muslim first and an American second. What do you make of well, we don’t know-we have to assume the testimony is probably accurate. The person is probably not lying. It’s a question of putting it in context and understanding what motivated this killing yesterday. And we may not know that ever.

NIHAD AWAD, COUNCIL ON AMERICAN-ISLAMIC RELATIONS: Yes. And as we all know, we’re just getting bits and pieces and we cannot just piece it together until the investigation is over. And I hope that the investigators, who are trained to do this, will given (ph) the time. And as President Obama said last night, we’re going to get answers to every question.

But I’m really not happy to see that his religion is becoming the subject, when we have crimes committed against our soldiers and against our civilians inside the United States and outside the United States, and hardly (ph) the religion, if it plays (ph) by the motives of those who are committing these acts, it does not become the story in the United States press, except when he or she is a Muslim. And this is unfortunate. Even if this guy uttered the words “Allahu Akhbar” or “God is great”…

[Who the hell cares if you're happy or not. If you had any soul you would admit the truth. You are inflaming people by sitting there and lying. His religion is why the muslim murderer did what he did - and what he did was premediated murder of non-muslims in the name of Islam. And that is the truth whether it makes you happy or not.]

MATTHEWS: Right before the shooting.

AWAD: Yes. So what? I mean, he…

MATTHEWS: Well, what does that tell you?

AWAD: It tells me that this is an isolated incident by a disturbed individual. All the information we’re getting indicates that he is a disturbed individual.

[Aka a "devout muslim". It was a planned premeditated attack on unarmed non-Muslims by a muslim murderer in the name of Islam. You can sit and lie all you want but it is not going to change the facts.]

AWAD: And this also reminds me of the fact that, you know, Eric Rudolph was (INAUDIBLE)

MATTHEWS: Pardon me?

AWAD: Eric Rudolph, the abortion bomber…

MATTHEWS: Right.

AWAD: … he did that in the name of Christianity, and never (ph) Christianity or Christians became the subject of the press. So even if these people claim religious affiliation or a religious claim, I don’t think we should play into their hands. All these pieces of information are still coming out and I think it’s too…

MATTHEWS: Well, is it a very-is it a worthy effort to find out if religion was his motive? Is that OK with you? Is it OK to find it out?

[Who the hell cares if it's ok with him?]

AWAD: We have to find out how he thinks and what he did, but I will never come to the conclusion that religion is the motive, religion is the reason for that. I am a Muslim and…

[Well there it is. He will never come to the conclusion his fellow muslim was a murderer in the name of islam. Never. So what kind of open mind does he have? What is he doing here other than trying to save face and make the murderer out to be a victim? Nice try Mr CAIR. You showed your true colors.]

MATTHEWS: No, no. No one’s saying that-well, an idiot would say that a Muslim is a terrorist, but…

AWAD: Well, there are-there are people who (INAUDIBLE)

MATTHEWS: Well, that would be an idiotic position, because there’s a billion Islamic people in the world, OK? And that’s an idiotic statement.

AWAD: Well, you know-well, I’m glad-I’m glad-of course, you know, you’re one of the few.

[One of the few? He just exposed his own prejudice. And barama for a moment grew a spine.]

MATTHEWS: Well, don’t-don’t be patronizing with me. I-we’re aware we know what we’re talking about.

But, with these other statements, the Colonel-the retired Army Colonel Terry Lee, he said he worked with Hasan. And he said that he had frequent arguments with others in the armed services who support the wars, and he had tried to prevent his planning-his pending deployment in Afghanistan. He also, according to this, said Muslims should stand up and fight against the aggressor. And he was hoping very much that President Obama would have a different policy over there. By the way, a lot of people…

AWAD: Right.

MATTHEWS: … were hoping that Barack Obama would have a different policy about these wars.

AWAD: Definitely. And, also, that very statement that was relayed, that this Muslim doctor said, the one who relayed this information was not 100 percent sure that this is really the motivation when he said Muslims should-should stand up and fight the oppressors. I’m paraphrasing. He said, I’m not sure if he meant what he said. I think that’s also subject for investigation.

[Notice how barama said AGGRESSOR and Mr CAIR changed it to OPPRESSORS. Again his personal views leak out.]

MATTHEWS: Yes. But you know most people operate by Occam’s razor.

AWAD: Yes. Yes.

MATTHEWS: The most obvious motive is the one you start with. And this is a man who has made many-forget his religion.

AWAD: Right.

MATTHEWS: He has made many statements to many colleagues about his attitude toward this war, many statements about his feeling that Muslim-Islam is being attacked by the United States. These are public statements he’s made to other people.

He wasn’t hiding this. He gave away apparently some of his furniture the other day as sort of a preparation for this horror. Yelling out “God is great” right before he opened up with semiautomatic pistols, when you have a couple of them and you start shooting at people, and the first thing you say before you start doing it, “God is great,” a reasonable person would say, there is a connection between what you have said in terms of your religious belief and this incredible horror you’re undertaking. Isn’t that a reasonable connection to draw?

AWAD: Even if he was Christian and he said, “Jesus is Lord…”

MATTHEWS: And he began firing?

AWAD: … would-would the-a main Christian leader be brought to this program, or others, and be asked…

MATTHEWS: Oh, no, no, no. We want-look, you were invited because of the concern our producers have that people will draw will…

AWAD: Exactly.

MATTHEWS: No-assumptions like the idiot one I just described you to you a moment ago…

MATTHEWS: … Which is, all Islamic people are terrorists.

AWAD: And I agree. You know, we-we also receive complaints from soldiers in the U.S. military who are complaining about some-some-being taunted or discriminated.

[Are they being raped because of the way they look or being summarily discharged because of who they are - like women and gays in the military?]

MATTHEWS: I think-we will talk about that.

AWAD: Yes.

MATTHEWS: What is going on in that regard?

AWAD: There-there are a few. It is not like the biggest portion of the complaints that we receive, but there is a procedure of addressing these grievances within the military, and even in our society.

If it was the worst it can be, it should never justify a mass killing and heinous crime, like this guy did.

[Words. If he really believed that why did he say he will never come to the conclusion his fellow muslim was a murderer in the name of islam?]

MATTHEWS: Well, what do you feel? What is your feeling when you hear all this evidence? What is your feeling-not in terms of your role, leading an organization which is against discrimination of any kind.

AWAD: Right. Right.

MATTHEWS: But what is your feeling as an American sitting here listening to this and saying, my God, what happened to this man? How did he find his way into a role where he is treating people with post-traumatic stress syndrome, all day long, these horror stories coming into his heart and soul? And he is a man of Islamic background.

And it’s a war being fought against Islamic people. And he is treating many people who are in their own ways victims of that war, soldiers who had to fight and be involved in horrific situations. What does it say to you in your heart?

[In this part he is unable to control his body language. He looks down and to the left = lying.]

AWAD: It is a national tragedy. And when I saw this, I was feeling sick in my stomach when I saw this. And, [BLINK BLINK BLINK] immediately, we condemned it, [shakes head] because common complaint, that American Muslims do not speak up and out [looks down] against these crimes. We do. And I’m happy that we’re given the opportunity…

[The problem is you speak up only after these things happen. And when you do you refuse to tell the truth and say things like you will never come to the conclusion his fellow muslim was a murderer in the name of islam. And you shouldn't condemn it because of a "common complaint" - you should condemn it because it was an act of evil perpetrated on "fellow" Americans. Keep talking bro.]

MATTHEWS: But you didn’t do it for P.R. reasons, did you?

[Of course he did. And so did MSNBC.]

AWAD: No, no. I mean, sincerely, I offer condolences for the families who lost their loved ones.

[BLINK = LIE Look at the tilt of his head here. He is holding a great deal of anger and what he just said is an absolute lie. I'm sure the government is happy he is providing them plenty of footage. Watch what he says when he points to himself.]

MATTHEWS: Right.

AWAD: And I pray sincerely for God [looks down] to give speedy recovery for those who were injured in this attack. But, also, I remembered the thousands of Muslims who are continuing to serve in the U.S. military…and also the many headstones in Arlington National Cemetery that have crescents on them. Those people who have died and they have given their life to America, they should be honored also by disassociating…

[None of whom were murdered by his fellow devout muslim. And how many of them have been murdered by a Christian simply because they are non-Christians?]

MATTHEWS: You know what is frightening? The way in which religion has been brought into this.

[What's frightening is what the murderer did it solely because of his religion.]

MATTHEWS: When I hear stories about the people, as the planes were going into the World Trade Center, as they were hitting the buildings, and I hear stories that you could hear over the radio people screaming with delight, the terrorists themselves-they were thrilled that they could do this, they thought, for God. That’s scary. And that’s reality.

AWAD: Scary to me [BLINK] because they hijacked my faith. [points to self - and then stutters for the first and only time] And they-they-they have dealt a major blow to me, as an American Muslim, who loved America and who loved Islam.

[Your stutter says otherwise. And not a word about the nearly 3000 people murdered by those hijackers - including muslims. Just pointing to himself.]

MATTHEWS: Yes.

AWAD: This is a major blow to me.

MATTHEWS: Well, let’s all try to understand.

AWAD: But, also, we are a mature society. This is not the first incident that happened. And we have shown that, in times of crisis, we Americans, we show the best and finest of our qualities. We are unified, even in times of crisis.

MATTHEWS: I think-well said. I think we ought to have a system where a guy like this guy can raise his hand and say, I don’t want to go to Iraq or Afghanistan for a lot of good reasons. Please don’t send me.

AWAD: There are many people who have…

MATTHEWS: And maybe somebody you was being a little too discipline there. But, anywhere, thank you, sir.

AWAD: Thank you.

MATTHEWS: Thanks for coming in. Stay-please keep in touch.

Why? He’s already made up his mind. All you need to know about CAIR he said in one exchange.

AWAD: We have to find out how he thinks and what he did, but I will never come to the conclusion that religion is the motive, religion is the reason for that. I am a Muslim.

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