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May 6, 2008
Indiana & North Carolina Primary
Donna Brazile does the bitch smackdown…can you tell what barack is cooking?
“Maybe I should come cook you something, Paul”
She also talks about Joe & Jane Six Pack and in the next sentence accuses Begala of trashing black blue collar workers. Guess the white ones are trashable since they’re white trash anyway. Then she goes on to lie that she is not decided.
ALEX CASTELLANOS, REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST: I do think the Democrats
have figured out — Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama figured out how to
take a landslide and turn it into a close race in the fall. And yes,
there’s some divisions.
Barack Obama was once a transformational, broad reaching candidate
who went all the way across the spectrum. He was that in Iowa; he is
that no more.
I do warn Republicans, however, that, you know, doors that are
closed can be opened again. I think we are — John I think was heading
in the right direction. Any political guy that looks at these numbers
is going to see a Barack Obama who wants to be a much more optimistic
American candidate in the fall, who is going to talk about family and
values in the fall, and who is going to I think try to reach across that
— stick his finger — Sister Soulja (ph) like — in the Democratic
bases’ eye a couple of times, demonstrate some strength.
So yes, I think he can come back. But he has shut some doors on
some voters that he had a few months ago that he does not have now.
BROWN: OK. I’ve got to bring Paul Begala into this and get his
take on what everyone has been saying, beating up your candidate.
Begala, we should mention to everyone again, is a Clinton supporter
— Paul? .
PAUL BEGALA, CLINTON SUPPORTER, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: Well, I
think Alex makes an interesting allegation — put it this way — or
point. He said that Obama is closing the door on those white,
working-class voters. I don’t think that’s the case at all, although
some of the commentary tonight kind of bothers me.
When people say things — I love Donna and we go back 22 years.
We’ve never been on different sides of an arguments in our entire lives.
But if her point is that there’s a new Democratic Party that somehow
doesn’t need or want white working-class people and Latinos, well count
DONNA BRAZILE, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: Paul, baby, I did not say that.
BEGALA: We cannot win with egg heads.
Let me finish my point.
We cannot win with egg heads and African-Americans. OK, that is the
Dukakis Coalition, which carried ten states and gave us four years of
the first George Bush.
President Clinton — reached across to get a whole lot of
Republicans and Independents to come. I think Senator Obama and Senator
Clinton both have that capacity. They both have a unique ability —
well it’s not unique if they both have it. They both have a remarkable
ability to reach out to those working-class white folks and Latinos.
Senator Clinton has proven it; Barack has not yet, but he can. And I
certainly hope he is not shutting the door on expanding the party.
BROWN: OK. Let — egg heads and African-Americans? That’s the new
BRAZILE: First of all, Paul, you didn’t hear me right. Maybe I
should come and cook you something because you’ve got a little hearing
I was one of the first Democrats who were going to the white
working-class neighborhoods, encouraging white Democrats not to forget
their roots. I have drank more beers with “Joe Six Pack,” “Jane Six
Pack” and everybody else than most white Democrats that you’re talking
In terms of Hispanics, you know Paul, I know the math. I know
Colorado; I know Nevada; I know New Mexico. So that’s not the issue.
I’m saying that we need to not divide and polarize the Democratic Party
as if the Democratic Party will rely simply on white, blue collar male–
you insult every black blue collar Democrat by saying that.
So stop the divisions. Stop trying to split us into these groups,
Paul, because you and I know both know we have been in more campaigns.
We know how Democrats win and to simply suggest that Hillary’s coalition
is better than Obama’s, Obama’s is better than Hillary’s — no. We have
a big party, Paul.
BEGALA: That’s right.
BRAZILE: Just don’t divide me and tell me I cannot stand in
Hillary’s camp because I’m black, and I can’t stand in Obama’s camp
because I’m female. Because I’m both.
BEGALA: That’s — Donna —
BRAZILE: And I’m wealthy so I might go with McCain and sit with
Bill Bennett, Paul.
BENNETT: That’s funny.
BRAZILE: Don’t start with me, baby.
BEGALA: We’re having a vigorous agreement then, Donna.
BRAZILE: A gentle —
BEGALA: Agreement then —
BRAZILE: Because we’re not doing — both —
BEGALA: My point is —
BROWN: Go ahead, Paul.
BEGALA: What worries me is this notion that somehow there’s a —
and I hear this sometimes from some of my friends that are for Senator
Obama — that there is a new Democratic Party and we don’t really need
all those folks. And we’re — Donna is exactly right. The only way to
win this in my party — we’re not the monochromatic Republican Party.
In the Democratic Party, the only way we win is to stitch together
white folks and African-Americans and Latinos and Asians. And that’s
what President Clinton did twice. That’s how he won two national
elections. And I’m —
BRAZILE: And Paul, I was there with you. I was there.
BRAZILE: It’s our party, Paul. Don’t say my party. It’s our
party. Because it’s time that we bring the party back together, Paul.
BROWN: But Donna, doesn’t he have a point in that it is divided?
He is going to have to reach into her coalition and bring some people
over and she — were she to get the nomination — is going to have to
reach into his and bring people over?
BRAZILE: When John McCain secured the Republican nomination, he had
to do some homework and reaching out to the Bill Bennets. If Barack
Obama secures the Democratic nomination, he will have to reach out to
blue collar, white voters and neutralize Senator Clinton’s advantage on
the economy but —
BROWN: Why hasn’t he been able do that yet?
BRAZILE: He has reached out and he’s won — do you think that
Barack Obama would be leading in the pledged votes, the delegate votes,
the money, if it was simply because somehow or another black people
somehow or another became the majority?
Barack Obama has won the hearts and the minds of white voters, as
well as blacks and Hispanics. I think — he has to continue to do his
homework and that’s what he showed today in North Carolina, he must
prove that in the races to come.
CASTELLANOS: He was a much broader reaching candidate when this
process started. And now I think it’s fair to ask: Would the people you
that see in Barack Obama’s life be the same people you see in his
administration? Would you see Bill Ayers? Would there be people like
The answer may be no, by the way.
BRAZILE: Alex now you — that is so small, Alex. That’s so small.
CASTELLANOS: No, but I’m saying that whether — the answer may be
no. But the question is certainly out there for a lot of voters.
BRAZILE: Will he take us to war on a lie and see all of our troops
die on a lie? And not ask for forgiveness?
CASTELLANOS: With plane’s crashing into a building —
BRAZILE: Come on, Alex. Don’t do that.
CASTELLANOS: Planes crashed into a building. It was not a lie.
BRAZILE: You al want to make a superficial conversation, not a
real, substantive conversation. Let’s make it about substance and not
BROWN: OK guys, you know what?
Donna, let me — OK —
BRAZILE: That’s beneath you, Alex. You know better.
BROWN: All right, guys.
Let many ask you something.
Hold on, Paul. Hold on.
BEGALA: I want to defend —
BROWN: Hold on. I want to ask Donna something.
I want to ask Donna something because you have been on these panels
time and time again with us as an undecided voter, and you sound very
BRAZILE: I’m not undecided.
BRAZILE: I’m undeclared.
BROWN: Undeclared. There you go.
Well it sounds very much —
Hey, no —
BRAZILE: Words matter.
BROWN: Words matter.
It sounds very much to me tonight like you have made up your mind.
BRAZILE: No. It sounds like I am ready to unify my party. I’m
ready to bring the party back together and I’m sick and tired of hearing
people say my party, my party. This is the Democratic Party. We have
stood through thick and thin and I’m sick of the divisions. That’s all
I’m not saying that this is about — I think Hillary is a fabulous
candidate and she is doing a remarkable job in the closing days of this
campaign. But Barack Obama’s also a great candidate and I respect John
Now what does that make me?
BROWN: All right.
Well, Paul —
Hold on, Alex.
I want to go — Paul was desperate to get a word in and I cut him
off — Paul?
BEGALA: Yes, I’m sorry to intrude with a fact. But Alex is raising
something that I think is going to be a loser for his party. His party
believes that they think that they can beat Barack Obama by attacking
his former pastor, or some guy he used to live in the neighborhood with
30 years ago. I think it is all nonsense.
We have some empirical proof. In the Louisiana House race, it was
last week, this is a district that has been solidly Republican for 34
years, that voted 55 percent for George W. Bush. This is not a swing
district. And they went in there, the Republicans did, and they ran ads
attacking Barack Obama and attacking Reverend Wright.
And you know what the Republicans did?
So as a Democrat, I don’t even support Barack in the primaries, but
I would gladly support him in the general election. And if Alex thinks
they can win this by attacking people other than Barack Obama, somebody
he used to know, somebody he used to listen to preach, I think that’s a
loser strategy for the Republicans.
BROWN: OK, guys. Hold on. To be continued.