March 7, 2009
UPDATED 3-9 with the actual CNN transcript.
DL Hughley interviews Rep Ron Paul (R-TX). The “Rush Limbaugh is the head of the Republican Party” debate continues.
HUGHLEY’s opening comments:
You know, first off, I did not — I was having a conversation but I didn’t mean for this to happen. And I like Michael Steele a lot. I’m supporting him on my cup. I don’t think he should resign. This is like — I started all of this. This is like black-on-black crime. That’s what it is. I want him to keep his job. But since then Michael Steele has apologized which, I hate. I think if you say something you mean, you should just stand by it. He said, “I respect Rush Limbaugh. He’s a national conservative leader. And in no way, do I want to diminish his voice.”
Why is the name Steele? You should call him aluminum. He folded that fast. I don’t understand.
Does Rush Limbaugh run the GOP? It seems like it to me.
Then he introduces Ron Paul.
HUGHLEY: Here now to talk about the Grand Old Party is Texas Congressman Ron Paul. How are you doing, Ron? You see, it’s amazing. You are probably the most — the favorite Republican of everybody that I know, man. You talk sensibly. You’re very reasonable. You’re very pragmatic in your approach.
Can I ask you an honest question, is Rush Limbaugh the Republican Party leader?
REP. RON PAUL, (R) TX: Philosophically, he has a lot to do with it. But technically, no, he’s not an elected leader. But philosophically, he’s filling a void, I think there is a void in the Republican Party. And in some ways he’s filling it. But there are philosophic influences and that’s what Rush Limbaugh does.
HUGHLEY: Then let me ask you probably a more direct question. Why do so many people insist on kissing his ass like that? Why is he so — Mark Sanford, the governor of South Carolina apologized. Congressman Phil Gingrey apologized. Now you have the chairman of the RNC apologizing to him. I don’t think they said anything that was unreasonable. Why would they insist on …
PAUL: I have no idea. I can’t quite figure out all of this excitement about this event.
HUGHLEY: Me neither.
PAUL: Because in a way, I just wonder about the liberals and Democrats wanting to help Rush Limbaugh so much. He’s making a lot more money. You know what I suspect that’s going on, and this has nothing to do with the conspiracy, but I think what they want to happen is Rush Limbaugh make a whole lot of money and then they’re going to tax him and limit his income to about $250,000 a year, and they’re going to put a tax on all of the entertainers and we’re going to bail out everybody in the country and take care of all of the poor people.
HUGHLEY: Hey, man, the word conspiracy is going to be used, let the black guy do it. I want to do that. But he does represent — Rush Limbaugh does represent a pretty large segment of the Republican Party.
PAUL: I think — the poll, nobody knows the exact number. I think I saw a poll that said 11 percent but they are energetic and they know about it. But he doesn’t represent a lot of people involved with social values. He certainly doesn’t represent me.
Then they discussed the economy, bailout, stimulus package and government spending.
HUGHLEY: So you were against George Bush’s big spending, too?
PAUL: Oh, absolutely. And certainly I was against his foreign policy and his violation of personal civil liberties, the privacy that he was invading and the secrecy of government. I didn’t like any of that. I’m sort of an old-fashioned conservative that believes in the Constitution.
HUGHLEY: Now, you voted against — also voted against President Obama’s stimulus package. Obviously, you had reservations about that. Why was that?
PAUL: Well, I don’t think it’s going to do any good. Most of that money so far hasn’t helped the little guy. Going to Wall Street, if they would have taken all of that money and just sent checks out, we would have been better off. I would like to get the money into the hands of the people. I don’t trust the government and don’t trust the politicians and the bureaucrats because they bail out their buddies. What we want is to get more money in the hands of the people. That’s why should suspend the income tax and everybody would get a pay raise immediately. There are still a few people employed. So this would be a big boost to the economy. And the people make the decisions rather than bailing out corporate giants and banks, and then they take their money and they get billions of dollars worth of bonuses. It’s absolutely out of control.
Then more amazement that a Republican can be reasonable. He says everything but – “for a whitey you’re”.
HUGHLEY: Why? The amazing thing is you almost — you don’t seem like a Republican to me that I have ever heard. You seem so reasonable. No, honestly, you really do. You seem to make sense, which I don’t attribute to very many politicians.
Paul says he’s a “strict Constitutionalist” but he didn’t have the nads to go to the wall with barry and his birth certificate – he let his running mate, Gail Lightfoot, go it alone.
HUGHLEY: Ron, you are — you are too human to be Republican.
And then they talked about the Civil War and Afghanistan.
PAUL: I don’t like this war [Afghanistan] as a solution to our problems.
HUGHLEY: I tell you what, you make way too much sense. You can’t be Republican. I will say it again. Are you going to run again in 2012?
PAUL: Well, I might be running from somebody or running for Congress. Or who knows what?
HUGHLEY: Thank you, Congressman Ron Paul. It was a pleasure, man. A real pleasure. Wow.
Both interviews – Steele and Paul – Hughley remarked that they didn’t seem like Republicans, revealing his own generalized thinking.
What if someone were to say to Hughley: You don’t seem like a black person to me…you seem too reasonable…too human…you make too much sense.
Would it be considered worse than *articulate*?
HUGHLEY: Next we’ll find out if Jesus was a Republican…