What led Kos to post that fake COLB

February 16, 2010

Birth certificate posts

hey justsaynobama –

Here’s the post (minus the embedded links) that led to the COLB appearance on KOS. It was written by NRO’s JIM GERAGHTY. Not familiar with him, his views, if he considers the COLB a “birth certificate” or where he presently stands on the issue. He clearly likes parentheses.

Obama Could Debunk Some Rumors By Releasing His Birth Certificate

[emphasis added]

GERAGHTY: Having done some Obama-rumor debunking that got praise from Daily Kos (a sign of the apocalypse, no doubt), perhaps the Obama campaign could return the favor and help debunk a bunch of others with a simple step: Could they release a copy of his birth certificate?

Reporters have asked for it and been denied, and the state of Hawaii does not make such records public.

The campaign cited the birth certificate in their “Fact Check” on William Ayers, so presumably, someone in the campaign has access to it.

Factcheck referred to a 1981 UPI article for barry’s birth certificate. They of course provided no link and I haven’t been able to locate it. Surprise.

Why would they use a 1981 article if barry really had obtained his COLB in June 2007?

And why didn’t the lawyers pounce on this fact and make factcheck produce the UPI article or at least try to find it themselves?

It would have been the easiest way to prove that COLB a fraud.

GERAGHTY: (Apparently the lack of birth certificate, which would state the time of birth on August 4, is driving the astrologers nuts, as they need his birth time to calculate… whatever it is they calculate.)

There are several (unlikely) rumors circulating regarding Obama’s birth certificate.

Rumor one: Obama was born in Kenya. Rather unlikely, as it would require everyone in his family to lie about this in every interview and discussion with those outside the family since young Obama appeared on the scene. However, if it were true, it would probably raise a major question of “does he qualify as a natural-born citizen”? If Obama were born outside the United States, one could argue that he would not meet the legal definition of natural-born citizen under because U.S. law at the time of his birth required his natural-born parent (his mother) to have resided in the United States for “ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16.”

Ann Dunham was 18 when Obama was born – so she wouldn’t have met the requirement of five years after the age of 16.

(Interestingly, apparently there isn’t much paperwork on Obama’s parents’ marriage. Obama: From Promise to Power, page. 27: “Obama later confessed that he never searched for the government documents on the marriage, although Madelyn (Obama’s maternal grandmother) insisted they were legally married.” Also note that Obama’s father apparently was not legally divorced from his first wife back in Kenya at the time, a point of contention that ultimately led to their separation.)

Did he or didn’t he look?

He idolized his father but didn’t look for a marriage certificate for his book?

Or did the birth certificate tell him everythng he wanted to know?

Can’t know because all available history comes from barry and Bill Ayers and none of it can be corroborated.

But in this case it doesn’t matter. A legal marriage was impossible because barry sr was still married to his first wife, whom he never divorced and whom he continued to have children with – even after he married his third wife. This makes barry a bastard conceived out of wedlock by a mother who was only 17 when she was impregnated by his father – a married man 6-7 years older than her, whose wife was pregnant and caring for their young son.

There’s more to the article if your interested.

One Response to “What led Kos to post that fake COLB”

  1. mattie Says:

    Hello Bovril-

    You’re joking right?

    barry people allowed only factcheck to look at it and later politifact got a copy of it. It was never available to the general public nor were the photos factcheck took, which were incomplete. And when politifact had Okubo and Onaka look at it it was an email digital image they looked at.

    It was never available to the press and certainly never available to regular citizens aka “birthers” then or at any time since. barry is still refusing requests from members of Congress to release it.

    And the point you’re making reinforces the birthers’ stand. If it was available in June 2008 – why wasn’t it available thereafter?

    It was allegedly put on line to quell doubts. When the doubts continued they did nothing and allowed no one to look at it. Even now.

    And factcheck?

    I suppose you think they are non-partisan.

    https://citizensagainstproobamamediabias.wordpress.com/2009/09/23/factcheck-org-is-directly-related-to-barry/

    This is your back up proof?

    Said piece of paper was reported widely as having

    An embossed seal (sealed)
    A printed signature from “Alvin T Onaka” Regsistrar of Vital Statistics (signed)

    “Reported widely”?

    Fact checks are supposed to deal in facts – not reports. It didn’t.

    For that digital image to have even the least bit of credibility the entire back page would have to have been shown with the seal and signature in situ. It wasn’t. So it is not a “certified copy” of anything. It’s a one-sided digital image of something that has never been vouched for by Dr Fukino.

    And this is a complete lie as well:

    In addition the Hawai’i Deartment of Health has repeatedly confirmed the validity of the content, to whit the birth in Honolulu of Obama.

    Clever wording though.

    Dr Fukino has expressly never said a word about that digital image on line. Nothing. Even when she had been asked repeatedly to clarify after her first statement, she said nothing in the second. So what he has been presenting as “proof” has never been connected to what Dr Fukino is using as “proof”.

    They are two completely unrelated entities.

    And it is the crux of the matter that folks don’t seem to grasp. And it’s why the request for a copy of what Dr Fukino is vouching for – which barry can get a copy of at any time – is legitimate and will remain so until he does.

    And most telling of all the “factchecking” proof out there, the man whose name is allegedly stamped on that image – the Hawaii State registrar Dr Alvin T Onaka – looked at it and said he couldn’t say what that image was.

    If a man who works with those documents every single day couldn’t say what that image is how could regular old bloggers – not document examiners – deem it legit?

    Politifact even admitted it.

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/

    And no, I am not talking about Orly Taitz. I’m referring to Phil Berg who repeatedly asked for a copy of that digital image before he filed suit – his being the first one. Had he been allowed to see that alleged “document” allegedly stored at barry’s HQs in Chicago and had it been kosher, birthers would not have come into existence. Much the same as barry can get rid of them at any time by just providing a copy of whatever Dr Fukino is vouching for.

    He hasn’t.

    Why?

    This faulty argument isn’t even worth debating when the chief executive claims he has the “most transparent administration in history” and refers to himself as Mr Transparency.

    Just as a reminder, here in the US, there is this troublesome thing in law…presumption of innocence…It is incumbent upon the accuser to prove not the accused and to do it you need standing.

    Transparency is not conditional.

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