McCain challenger, Hayworth: BC = identity theft issue

February 17, 2010

Birth certificate posts
Jan 26 Hayworth: barry should produce birth certificate

Sen McCain is being challenged for his senate seat by slimy ex-Congressman radio host,  JD Hayworth. He was on CNN talking to Campbell Brown and the birth certificate issue came up. Of course. The media is no longer talking about the “birth certificate” aka COLB – they are focusing on whether folks think he is an American citizen. They figure people are on to the fact that that COLB is not a birth certificate so they’re challenging folks to call barry an illegal alien.

Hayworth says the media is the one talking about it – not his constituents at townhalls…and then he says his constituents are writing to him about it and that’s what he’s responding to…and then he says his constitutents aren’t asking him about it. So which is it?

He takes a novel approach though – IDENTITY THEFT. Campbell Brown’s face was priceless.

Jan 26 Hardball – Matthews also framed it as citizen vs illegal immigrant – Hayworth’s answers were different. He said we should know if candidates are NBCs and that barry should come forward with the information. Brown said nothing.

Hard to believe his constituents aren’t asking about it. Maybe he’s leaving it up to the AZ legislature and the bill proposed by State Rep Judy Burges (R), which would require the presidential candidate to produce his (no need to say her) birth certificate and whatever else necessary. And then it goes one farther than Rep Posey’s bill. The AZ Secy of State would scrutinize it and if unsatisfied, would have the power to keep the candidate off the ballot. Something I thought was already taking place.


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Interesting comment by Sen McCain.

SEN. JOHN MCCAIN (R), ARIZONA: I stand ready to sit down for meaningful negotiations and bipartisanship, and the American people want it. And I have a long record of it. This administration, this president promised change in Washington. There’s been change, all right, change for the worse.

CAMPBELL BROWN: Again, John McCain from earlier today. And I’m joined now by his Republican challenger, former congressman J.D. Hayworth. Congressman, today, you portrayed John McCain as a liberal Democrat who hangs out, in your words, with his leftist pals in the Senate. Forgive me here, but where has that John McCain been all year? From health care to national security, he’s been giving Democrats nothing but giant headaches.

HAYWORTH: Well, again, Campbell, he’s undergone a campaign-year conversion. In the words of one of my constituents, he said, that John McCain, always there when he needs us. And I’ll tell you, the skepticism here has given way to cynicism, as you see John actually vote in so many other directions, whether you take the bailout bill for the banks, $850 billion all told, $150 billion in earmarks, the very type of spending John claims he opposes, or of the tax cuts that I helped write as a member of the Ways and Means Committee on the House side in 2001 and 2003.

John went to the well of the United States Senate and said they were — quote — “tax cuts for the wealthy,” sounding a lot more like John Kerry than the John McCain I knew. Now, we seeing — I guess in lieu of the Straight Talk Express, this time around, we are going to have the Zigzag Express.

BROWN: But this is still the man who was the Republican Party’s presidential nominee, its standard-bearer. This was less than two years ago. And now you’re arguing he’s too liberal to be reelected as a Republican.

HAYWORTH: Well, again, let me gently correct the lead sentence you offered. I’m not portraying John McCain as a weak-kneed liberal. I’m simply saying what Arizona voters have a choice of now in the Republican primary is a consistent conservative or a moderate who claims to be a maverick, and on issue after issue John McCain is out of touch with the base of the Republican Party.

HAYWORTH: Indeed, a Rasmussen poll in the fall said — or in the winter earlier said that fully 61 percent of Arizona Republicans don’t believe John McCain shares their values.

BROWN: But Sarah Palin doesn’t think he’s out of touch. Dick Armey doesn’t think he’s out of touch. Grover Norquist doesn’t think he’s out of touch. Even the newest GOP superstar, Scott Brown, is endorsing him and supporting him. What are they missing that apparently you can see?

HAYWORTH: Well, let’s break that down into two groups. First of all, with Governor Palin and Senator Brown, there’s the simple human impulse of gratitude. And I understand that. And I don’t begrudge them that in the least. I look forward to working with Senator Brown in the days ahead in the United States Senate.

And with reference to Governor Palin, with all due respect, it’s not Sarah Palin of Alaska, but Sarah Boyd (ph) in Scottsdale and thousands of other Arizonans like her who will decide who the next United States senator will be.  In terms of Dick Armey and Grover Norquist, yes, the Washington establishment is going to weigh it on the side of John McCain, the Washington establishment supporting open borders and amnesty. And with all due respect, I will take the voters here in Arizona over the Washingtonians, who can’t vote here.

BROWN: At one point, Senator McCain did have this reputation as being a Republican who could reach across the aisle, who could work with Democrats. And given the way people are feeling right now, just crying out to see Washington do something, to get beyond this extreme partisanship, isn’t that quality a good thing?

HAYWORTH: Well, I think it’s always important to sit down and find practical terms of agreement. I don’t think we’re going to find them on health care, because I don’t believe that the left is going to be willing to engage on issues like medical liability reform and other key issues that really would bring compromise.

No, the sad thing is, Campbell, too often in Washington bipartisanship is defined as Republicans and conservatives caving in to what Democrats and their cheerleaders in the media want to see.

But let me give you an example of true nonpartisanship. And Republicans sit down, because it involves Harry Reid. Now, look, Harry and I have our differences, but my Education Land Grant Act, a Western state senator, a Democrat, put a hold on that bill some years ago. Harry went to that senator and said, hey, take your hold off J.D.’s bill, because his bill, the new Education Land Grant Act, will help with education in your home state and my home state and J.D.’s state and others. And the hold was lifted. It’s now law. And those schools are helping out. So, there is nonpartisanship where you can solve problems.

BROWN: But let me ask you about that, then. Do you see Harry Reid as someone who you could reach out to, if elected, and work with across the aisle?

HAYWORTH: Well, for purposes of full disclosure, I spoke Thursday night at the Washoe County, Lincoln Day dinner in Nevada, and obviously Harry has been friendly in the past. We have cooperated. But I believe we will see a Republican in that seat. Whomever is in whichever seat in the United States Senate, when I join that, I will look for commonsense solutions that are non-ideological, but I will not abandon my principles.
BROWN: Congressman, let me switch gears for a moment here. In an interview last month, you still seemed to have some doubts about whether President Obama is an American citizen. And I just want to get you on the record on this. Is he or isn’t he, in your view?

HAYWORTH: You know what? The only people raising that question, Campbell, with all due respect, are people in the media. That question has never come up at any town hall or any campaign stop. There’s so much more important issues, with double-digit unemployment here.

BROWN: Stop right there, because you were very — I can read you some of the quotes from your last interview, which seemed to suggest that you still…

HAYWORTH: No, I will be happy to recall them. No…

BROWN: … you still have questions about this.


HAYWORTH: Let me clear this up.

BROWN: And it’s amazing to me, in all honesty, that this is still an issue for you, if it is.

HAYWORTH: No, no, no, no, no. All I said was this, and I’m responding to what constituents write me about. And they’re looking prospectively at every office, from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue to city council.  For example, in Scottsdale, we had a situation where we had somebody running for the council under an assumed name who was a fugitive from justice. All I’m saying is, for every race across the country, especially with identity theft in the news, it would be great that people can confirm who they say they are.

BROWN: Identity theft? I mean, come on. Is that honestly what this is about?

HAYWORTH: I understand.

BROWN: Can you put it to rest once and for all? Are you comfortable with the fact that he’s an American citizen?

HAYWORTH: Barack Obama is the president of the United States. He’s our 44th president. I have no qualms about who he is or who he says he is.

I know who he is in terms of policy, in terms of reckless spending that will drive up hyperinflation, in terms of a so-called stimulus that led to incredible unemployment, and in terms to a guarantee of higher taxes on the American people and debt that is going to choke off generations yet to come.

That’s the Barack Obama that concerns me, not some esoteric argument about birth certificates and eligibility.

BROWN: Well, he is the president, and he’s certainly not going anywhere.

HAYWORTH: That’s right.

BROWN: If you do get elected, are you going to be able to sit across from him to work with him, having flogged this issue a little bit? Do you think that you can have a working relationship with him?

HAYWORTH: Look, you’re assuming something. I’m simply answering questions from the media, not my constituents. I have the utmost respect for Barack Obama and I have profound disagreements. I’ll tell you an interesting story. Last time I happened to see him in Washington, it was really in the early part of the presidential campaign. He wasn’t traveling with an entourage.  He happened to come to a hotel where he was going to speak. He came over to me. He said: “Hey, J.D. You are looking good. Looks like you lost weight.” And I said, “Well, you’re riding high now, pal, but I will be back.”

BROWN: All right, J.D. Hayworth, it’s going to be interesting. We appreciate you taking the time to chat with us, Congressman.

HAYWORTH: Thanks very much.

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