April 21, 2010
Former Colorado Congressman Tom Tancredo evidently told a crowd over the weekend: “If President Obama’s wife says Kenya is his homeland, why don’t we just send him back?” which to psychoEd is racist. Can’t figure the psycho-logic.
This is the only video I could find of the Ed Show.
Full transcript of the segment follows.
SCHULTZ: There seems to be a pattern of conservatives spewing hate than playing dumb. Like when Sarah Palin claims the media just doesn’t understand what she means when she says it’s time to reload. Well, I’ll tell you exactly what we mean when we talk about irresponsible rhetoric. It’s telling an angry and uninformed crowd absolute lies. Like fueling the lie that the President of the United States wasn’t born in the United States. Former Colorado Congressman Tom Tancredo who will join me in just a moment spoke at a tea party rally in South Carolina over the weekend, this is what he said to the crowd. “If President Obama’s wife says Kenya is his homeland, why don’t we just send him back?”
Maybe it was just a joke, but here’s the reality. 59 percent of tea partiers won’t say President Obama was born in the United States. If you don’t believe the president was born in the United States then you can’t believe he’s the legitimate leader of the country, can you? Rhetoric like this and rhetoric that’s being tossed out there is really, I think, asking for trouble.
Tom Tancredo joins me now, former Congressional member from Colorado. Congressman, what did you mean by that? I want to give you a chance to clarify it. Were you just making a joke? Do you really think President Obama ought to go back to Kenya?
TOM TANCREDO, FORMER GOP CONGRESSMAN: First of all, I am a little bit disappointed, Ed, I have to tell you because I think Rush beats me out all the time on your “Psycho Talk.” I mean, what more can I say?
SCHULTZ: I have to tell you—you know, we are exhausted in the office day after day trying to determine whether it’s going to be you or Limbaugh or Beck in “Psycho Talk.” And I’m sorry you’re getting your ass kicked by those two guys but they’re off the charts.
TANCREDO: I’m trying. I’m fighting back. I’m fighting back.
SCHULTZ: I still consider you at least somewhat reachable. Okay?
TANCREDO: Okay. All right. So let’s go to this. Now, look, many, many times with many, many presidents or actually people holding office at various levels someone will say, let’s send these guys home, you know? Meaning at the end of their term, let’s vote them out. Send Bush back to Texas, send Carter back to Georgia, Clinton back to Arkansas. I was talking about sending them home and I said, if home is where Michelle Obama says it is, which she said it was Kenya, who am I to argue with her? You know, she’s the one determining. You should be yelling at her for bringing this up because I’m just referencing what she said.
SCHULTZ: Tom, I have to tell you I think that’s a racist remark. President Obama is an American. He was born in Hawaii. And you know he was born in Hawaii.
TANCREDO: I didn’t say he wasn’t born in Hawaii.
SCHULTZ: His roots may have come from Kenya but sending him home, he is home, Tom. You’re leaving the impression—
TANCREDO: She says home.
SCHULTZ: — that Barack Obama, this is not his home. Fueling the rhetoric, is it responsible—
TANCREDO: It could be, you can take this in a variety of ways. You can say she was just referencing—when she said this, Kenya, is his homeland or home country, you can say, well, she probably meant it in terms of where he was, I guess people who are the, quote, birthers—
SCHULTZ: You know what you’re inferring, Tom. You know exactly what you’re doing.
TANCREDO: Or you can say she was talking about where he is, you know, spiritually, emotionally.
SCHULTZ: Oh, come on.
TANCREDO: Whatever it is, it’s not America.
SCHULTZ: Tom, you know what the climate of the country is right now.
TANCREDO: She should have said his home is America.
SCHULTZ: What you said is irresponsible. It wasn’t fair.
TANCREDO: She shouldn’t have brought it up.
SCHULTZ: Look, it’s what you made out of it.
TANCREDO: You should be yelling at her, not me.
SCHULTZ: Let me ask you this about the tea party movement. It’s race-based, isn’t it?
TANCREDO: No. It is not.
SCHULTZ: Okay. So the hatred for President Obama has nothing to do with the tea party?
TANCREDO: I think you guys on the left are totally engulfed in this concept of racism. Everything to you is racist. Nobody can say anything without you throwing that back at people and really I have to tell you I you guys are only thinking about everything that is said in terms of racial terms you are racist, not me, not us.
SCHULTZ: Tom, you know, I’m thinking about—
TANCREDO: These issues are not race related.
SCHULTZ: I’m thinking about Congressional members who are civil rights icons, Mr. Lewis who was called the “n” word, Congressional members spit on, Congressional members having stuff thrown through their window, bricks after being advocated by tea party nut jobs out there.
TANCREDO: How much of it was proven?
SCHULTZ: It was all proven. You know it was. That’s a hoodwink in the world. It was proven.
[Was it proven?]
TANCREDO: It was not.
SCHULTZ: Why to you associate yourself with these people?
TANCREDO: Because first of all I’m telling you, these people—even the way you say that I think is—that’s what I’d call bias or racist. What do you mean these people? These people are Americans. They were there, by the way, in every color, shape and size.
SCHULTZ: They weren’t in every color. That’s not true.
TANCREDO: Well, they were—
SCHULTZ: Come on, now. Even Bill O’Reilly said last week at the national conference he said it is a white movement. It’s a white movement.
TANCREDO: I didn’t see you there.
SCHULTZ: Yeah. Okay.
TANCREDO: I didn’t see you there. I’m sorry. I must have missed you. I guarantee you there were plenty of people there of various colors.
SCHULTZ: Do you have a problem with people of color? People of color. Do you have a problem with people—
TANCREDO: No, I do not, absolutely not, Ed. None whatsoever. I know what’s in my heart, buddy. I know what motivates me. I know why I say the things I say and do the things I do and I guarantee you there is nothing that motivates me based on some sort of racial idea. It’s not race-based.
Issues matter to me. Issues matter to me. And because I argue them and because I bring them forward and the president is black. That’s got absolutely—I’ll tell you what. If this guy, if he was a conservative my car would be covered with pro-Obama stickers. I want a conservative. I argue with liberals and I don’t care what color either one might be.
SCHULTZ: Tom Tancredo, good to have you on the program tonight. I’ll try to work you back into “Psycho Talk” a little bit more.
TANCREDO: I’ll do my best, buddy. I’ll do my best.